Neal Boortz: "We Got Too Damn Many Urban Thugs, Yo ... We Need More Dead Thugs" In Atlanta

This town is starting to look like a garbage heap. And we got too damn many urban thugs, yo, ruining the quality of life for everybody. And I'll tell you what it's gonna take. You people, you are - you need to have a gun. You need to have training. You need to know how to use that gun. You need to get a permit to carry that gun. And you do in fact need to carry that gun and we need to see some dead thugs littering the landscape in Atlanta. We need to see the next guy that tries to carjack you shot dead right where he stands. We need more dead thugs in this city. And let their -- let their mommas -- let their mommas say, "He was a good boy. He just fell in with the good crowd." And then lock her ass up.

7 votes

#1 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:15 PM EDT

bleat_onDeleted

He's too cowardly to say "black" rather than "urban", so I'm not too worried about him.

10 votes

#1.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:52 AM EDT

Oh- that also goes for anyone who claims that he's not talking about black people. They're cowards, too.

8 votes

#1.3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:57 AM EDT

ryan-244815

Neal’s wife, Donna, doesn't listen to the show. Never has. This is good. This is why they have managed a life together or relative tranquility since 1973.

In 2009 Neal was inducted into the National Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago by none other than Rush Limbaugh! When Neal wears his HOF ring in public people look at him and naturally think it’s a Super Bowl ring. Neal doesn’t let them get close enough to tell the difference.

This guy's a reeeeeal winner! [/s]

These quotes were literally copied and pasted from his bio on his website...

6 votes

#1.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:02 AM EDT

Since when did it become legal for an American to publicly advocate murdering another American?

After all the Blacks in Atlanta have been murdered, who next? The Latinos?

14 votes

#2 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:16 PM EDT

I think his comment is disgusting. However, he didn't say blacks, he said thugs. Thugs come in all colors. None the less it is a nasty disgusting comment

5 votes

#2.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:07 AM EDT

Like we don't know who he's talking about.

7 votes

#2.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:08 AM EDT

Legal_ImmigrantDeleted

Do you live in a town with gangs.... In my town the gangs (thugs) come in all colors, just like the honor roll students......

I wonder why you hear "thugs" as blacks?

10 votes

#2.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:14 AM EDT

Legal_ImmigrantDeleted

This was being talked about on cable news earlier this evening and they came to the same conclusion. And since this isn't the topic, I'm done with this.

And no Indpvoter, I don't live in an area infested with gangs/thugs because the community works with the police department to get them out of our community. The Fairfax County Police Department is effective because the people who live in Fairfax county demand it.

5 votes

#2.6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:23 AM EDT

Well if you did live where there were gangs, car jackers, etc. You would likely have noticed the melting pot appearance of thugs.

I do not condone his comments, but I am offended that you feel that thugs must be blacks.

5 votes

#2.7 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

Legal_ImmigrantDeleted

ryan-244815

Let's be realistic here: the idea that he didn't intend it as a barely veiled reference to black people is as absurd as the idea that the tea party isn't racist...

7 votes

#2.9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:09 AM EDT

http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=209419

I don't know this man's platform, but how I read what you are saying is.....

Urban Thugs = blacks ....

Seems to me that reaction is only controlled by the reader.

5 votes

#2.10 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:14 AM EDT

ryan-244815

Given that "thug life" is a concept that originated in the gangsta rap community (predominantly black) and the fact that thug has since been a common word used to describe black criminals in the modern vernacular, the odds are absolutely not in favor of the idea that he wasn't referring to black people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_black_man_stereotype

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_brute

http://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1887&context=utk_gradthes

4 votes

#2.11 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:36 AM EDT

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thug

After all the Blacks in Atlanta have been murdered, who next? The Latinos?

I'm confused, are you saying that all Black and Hispanic people carjack others? Are there no white carjackers?

and the fact that thug has since been a common word used to describe black criminals in the modern vernacular

Really? Because I've heard people use it to describe criminals of all colors.

2 votes

#2.12 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:17 AM EDT

Yeah, I think there are some serious misconceptions about who the racists are here. Some people need to look into their hearts and get honest with themselves about their own racial issues.

4 votes

#2.13 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:19 AM EDT

Michelle-340891

indepvoter: And exactly what did the word "yo" indicate when this moron started his tirade? What group of people use that word the most? What racial group is thought of FIRST when that word is used? Here's a clue: it isn't white folks.

It's CLEAR from his entire statement that he is NOT talking about white folks. I AM a white woman from a small community with not a lot of racial diversity (in other words, no "urban jungle" nor "urban thugs"), and even I could tell quite plainly exactly what group this asshat was talking about. Ignore it if you would like, but we should all be offended by his comment and his cavalier urging for people to take the law into their own hands to commit MURDER.

The ONLY time a civilian can legally kill another human is for self-preservation from a DIRECT threat to life. Car jacking does not equate to loss of life, period.

Even if he weren't talking specifically about blacks or hispanics (which IMHO he IS), he IS advocating MURDER. Taking the law into your own hands is called vigilantism ... and regardless of who it's directed at, it is ILLEGAL.

7 votes

#2.14 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

Michelle.... I totally agree w/ the wrongness of what he said.

When white/Hispanic/Asians/ etc. Go Thug, they say Yo.... Listened to any Rap lately? Seen the color of the Rappers?

Now you are saying Yo is only said by minority thugs.... Gee Whiz..

2 votes

#2.15 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:44 PM EDT

IndepvoterDeleted

It's CLEAR from his entire statement that he is NOT talking about white folks. I AM a white woman from a small community with not a lot of racial diversity (in other words, no "urban jungle" nor "urban thugs"), and even I could tell quite plainly exactly what group this asshat was talking about.

It's more important that you know. You can argue with people who defend this sort of thing forever, and they'll never admit what those code words mean. They'll keep pretending to believe it's "not racist".

5 votes

#2.17 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:50 PM EDT

Indepvoter, if you like the way this is handled on another thread then leave your comments there? Are you aware that every one on Newsvine have the right to an opinion that differs from yours? Why come here and try to devalue the opinions of others. Indepvoter, you not only lack integrity but maturity.

I deleted your comment because it has nothing to do with the topic.

5 votes

#2.18 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:19 PM EDT

PowersKnowledge,

This is a site made for debate and discussion. You absolutely have a right to your opinion, and I have a right to disagree.

I have not said one disrespectful thing.

The only point I was making with the other seeder's thread was that although the person completely disrespected the comments made by the radio host, the other person did not "know they were talking about blacks, and make it a racial issue."

2 votes

#2.19 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:28 PM EDT

angelaisafan

Now you are saying Yo is only said by minority thugs.... Gee Whiz..

you said

yo is only said by minority thugs.

I am curious as to why you believe minority actually means ... black?

3 votes

#2.20 - Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

Mike-2260639

Racist, fascist talk show hosts seems to be all the rage now a days. You want a civil war, Boortz? Bring it the @!$%# on!!!!!

4 votes

#3 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM EDT

jrone

Sounds like the carjackers and thugs are the ones that should be upset by this. And the guy has a point. If car jackers start littering the streets of Atlanta, carjacking will go down.

11 votes

#4 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM EDT

Michelle-340891

And who gets to decide who the "thugs" are? It's called VIGILANTISM and it's ILLEGAL.

This is nothing less than espousing MURDER.

This is a matter for the POLICE. You know, the "professionals" we pay out of our tax dollars? Maybe instead of cutting funding to police departments, we could actually give them enough funds to hire enough cops to adequately patrol our streets.

4 votes

#4.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 PM EDT

And who gets to decide who the "thugs" are? It's called VIGILANTISM and it's ILLEGAL.

I believe he said they should shoot people that try to carjack them.

Carjacking is always illegal, and self defense isn't vigilantism.

This is a matter for the POLICE. You know, the "professionals" we pay out of our tax dollars?

Except that they have no duty to protect anyone.

#4.2 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:03 AM EDT

Neal Boortz is a "wimp" that probably runs home at night to avoid encountering a thug regardless of their skin color.

3 votes

#5 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:24 PM EDT

A truly non-racist comment. Thank you. And his comment advocating murder is horrible.

2 votes

#5.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:21 AM EDT

Neal Boortz is a "wimp" that probably runs home at night to avoid encountering a thug regardless of their skin color.

Yup, because REAL men wander around all night looking for them.

3 votes

#5.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:18 AM EDT

onefan51

This is what right-wing talk radio has now become. Hate speech in the form of racism, bigotry, misogyny, and homophobia is the new standard. The only thing worse is the lack of condemnation by the elected officials who benefit from the support of these popular right-wing talk radio hosts.

5 votes

#6 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:30 PM EDT

Isn't Neal Boortz advocating genocide?

4 votes

#6.1 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

Im 4Me

Isn't Neal Boortz advocating genocide?

Since genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial group, then you are saying carjackers etc. are all one racial group. Is that correct? What racial group would that be?

6 votes

#6.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:00 AM EDT

Legal_ImmigrantDeleted

Randy McMurphy

Was he talking about car jackers? Because he was just talking about seeing "Urban Thugs" dead. Thugs are also the term republican use to describe union civil servants, and Urban welll we all know he's referring to black and Brown people specifically . You don't pull this crap without the intent of to stoke racial animus . This is the essence of the republican southern strategy. Talk in vague coded terms, it has been a policy of the republicans, and the past 2 RNC chiefs has apologized for it, but you just can't help yourselves...Thank god I'm not republican

8 votes

#6.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:58 AM EDT

onefan51

Isn't Neal Boortz advocating genocide?

He's advocating the annihilation of a specified racial group whom he labeled "Urban Thugs." Since annihilation and genocide have the same meaning, the answer is yes. The racially-charged words Neal Boortz uses can result in consequences worse than anyone can imagine. Even worst, Boortz' words may come back to directly haunt him. There are too many crazies in the world. Provoking them, on both sides the racial divide, is not a good idea.

5 votes

#6.5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:28 AM EDT

Randy McMurphy

And kneejerk conservative apologist reaction in 5...4...3...2...

6 votes

#7 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:49 PM EDT

Rightisright-3400273

And the point of this article? Apparently, Neal has lived there, and knows what he is talking about, so how can we judge what he says?

I, for one, am not 'up to snuff' on Atlanta happenings; at the moment, as I know most on this site are not. I do know, though, after having lived in metro Atlanta for 12 years, up until four years ago, that Neal isn't misspeaking, in my knowledge.

4 votes

#8 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:00 AM EDT

Randy McMurphy

Ummm If He lived there and had a brain He would know that crime has been dropping in Atlanta, down about 30% over the Last decade and 10% from last year alone.

Urban Thugs? Now , wonder what he meant by that...YO.

@!$%#king cons same old tactics . Southern Strategy thugs.

9 votes

#8.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:28 AM EDT

Rightisright-3400273

Randy, those statistics provide encouraging news. Yet, doesn't change anything.

You, apparently know what he means by Urban Thugs, because you brought it up. Does that make you what you are calling Neil?

Of course not. So, let's stop any blame or label games, and deal with issues.

1 vote

#8.2 - Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:54 PM EDT

sillyman

And the point of this article? Apparently, Neal has lived there, and knows what he is talking about, so how can we judge what he says?

He's advocating murder, and its wrong. if people are doing illegal things in that state let the POLICE do their job.

6 votes

#9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:08 AM EDT

Legal_ImmigrantDeleted

Village Idiot-2299796

Advocacy Of Civil Disorder:

Crime of hate against society. Please prosecute.

8 votes

#11 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:17 AM EDT

Absolutely.

5 votes

#11.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:24 AM EDT

Kevin-458252

Man, Conservatives are getting very "LIBERAL" painting the sins of one against an ENTIRE RACE of people. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know EXACTLY who he's referring to. All one has to do is look at the language and his choice of words to figure that out.

8 votes

#12 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 AM EDT

This open racism will just get worse over the next few months as we get closer to the election. The right wing nutter story ever since the Southern Strategy has been, "Black people bad... Hide the white women or they'll get raped."

7 votes

#13 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:38 AM EDT

I don't fully understand your comment. I don't know this host or his platform, so maybe you have information I don't. I didn't hear black in his comment and was startled by the seeders assumption that a "thug" is black.

I think the last election proved racism is decreasing in the US as a black man won by a majority vote and still holds many supporters of all colors.

3 votes

#13.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:52 AM EDT

Inde, then you didn't listen to any of his hatefilled speech. There is a certain segmant of the right that thinks they can get the good ole days back. Only now it's with guns and not lynching.

7 votes

#13.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:17 AM EDT

I didn't hear it. I read what was above. So, you may be correct.

But I see a lot of hateful, paranoid speech coming from the right too. Many conservatives are nice, honest, hard-working people who are not hateful and don't wish to hurt anyone or hold anyone back.

Just as there are some mean bitter lefties, and some fine kind-hearted, generous, hard-working, honest people.

Hmmm. Funny how stereo types work.

3 votes

#13.3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:26 AM EDT

#13.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:33 AM EDT

If all you do is read the headlines, how can you intelligently comment? Listen to the speech and you should have no trouble see that he is talking about blacks in general.

The problem with vigilante justice is there is no line that will not be crossed. First it's the suspected carjacker, then maybe we kill the guy down the street because he is a registered sex offender, and then we kill that rat bastard that cut you off in traffic this morning. It's a very slippery slope.

4 votes

#13.5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:33 AM EDT

First it's the suspected carjacker

Well, not just the suspected carjacker, but the young (or not so young) black man who is perceived as a potential carjacker because he's a black man.

6 votes

#13.6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

Plant, I was willing to give the benefit of doubt that the initial vigilantism would be somewhat reasonable. However we all know how everything we do gets pushed to the limit. It's not a far stretch to shooting someone for "stealing" your parking place at the during Christmas rush.

2 votes

#13.7 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

Well, I've never owned a gun, but I'm thinking of acquiring one. For a while, I've been considering taking the sort of advice Boortz ladles out in that audio- to protect myself from the sort of people he's talking to.

8 votes

#13.8 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

Yeah, I was just thinking that the people I know that are most fervent NRA supporters are exactly the people that could snap and start shooting people.

1 vote

#13.9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

Yes...black people in particular, which is why I'm considering buying a gun.

3 votes

#13.10 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:50 PM EDT

It's a very slippery slope.

Except that defending yourself against a car-jacker is legal. Shooting a guy that may have cut you off in traffic is... not.

However we all know how everything we do gets pushed to the limit.

That's crazy, because you don't see very many CCW going around shooting anyone that might piss them off.

But hey, at least you guys aren't bigots. /s/

3 votes

#13.11 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:17 PM EDT

But hey, at least you guys aren't bigots. /s/

Thank goodness.

4 votes

#13.12 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:21 PM EDT

I read the whole article... I did not listen to the audio.

1 vote

#13.13 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:53 PM EDT

Im 4Me

Shooting a guy that may have cut you off in traffic is... not.

Well, in Detroit we shoot because we all have guns.

3 votes

#13.14 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:50 PM EDT

Pattie in Maryland

Anti-bullying, and anti-hate-crime laws also are aimed at curbing "thug" behavior. I wonder if this guy Boortz (amd this article is the absolute first I've ever even heard of him) is a supporter of this legislation to clean up our streets.

1 vote

#14 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:42 AM EDT

This and Beck's recent implied threat to the President are what is going to undo the GOP if they don't stand up and condem this. I know if anyone would have done the same thing on a liberal or progressive media outlet, thye would a part of the unemployed right now.

3 votes

#15 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:15 AM EDT

Beverly in ATL, GA

unfortunately, i would have to say that boortz has a point. people are kickin in doors (whether your home or not), smash and grabs at retail stores and malls, attempts to lift ATM machines, etc. The barbershop where my husband works has been broken into 3x and he saw someone get carjacked today right in front of him....in the middle of the plaza parking lot. People are starting to fight back...there have been reports over the last 2yrs or so of residents hearing the criminals trying to break in and shooting the perpetraitors upon entry. My mothers home was broken into twice and she lives in an affluent area.

Athough, statistically, crime has gone down in ATL, coverage has gone up. IMO, gentrification has just put a spotlight on the crimes because they are happening in areas that if didnt before. In most cases, these are young black males committing these crimes averaging in age from around 15-20yrs old.

i dont agree with his choice of words (Yo) nor do i agree that ATL embraces an "urban culture" and condones these activities. but his overall point i would have to agree with.

7 votes

#16 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:32 AM EDT

Athough, statistically, crime has gone down in ATL, coverage has gone up. IMO, gentrification has just put a spotlight on the crimes because they are happening in areas that if didnt before.

News coverage, you mean?

It sort of sounds as if you're saying that the gentrifiers are committing the crimes:). In any case, Boortz is still a coward.

6 votes

#17 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:48 AM EDT

Beverly in ATL, GA

It sort of sounds as if you're saying that the gentrifiers are committing the crimes:).

BINGO!

and naturally, when you knock down all the projects....of course the crime rate in that particular city will decline. problem is now its just more spread out into the 'burbs.

In any case, Boortz is still a coward.

i agree, we can do without the "code words"....just say what you mean!

3 votes

#17.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:55 AM EDT

and naturally, when you knock down all the projects....of course the crime rate in that particular city will decline. problem is now its just more spread out into the 'burbs.

Well, I don't know if you can call that gentrification:).

#17.2 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:54 AM EDT

Crime has always been higher in the inner cities simply because that is where poverty was concentrated. but after Bush and the Republicans ran this country into the ground, and the number of white families living in poverty has increased crime is rising in the suburbs at a fairly alarming rate and "white on white" crime is rising.

4 votes

#17.3 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:18 AM EDT

Beverly in ATL, GA

the gentrification is the knocking down of all the projects and put in higher priced housing. the people who lived in the projects were essentially forced to move to (my neck of the woods) south fulton county, clayton county, henry county, and so forth. i can definitely see the changes within the last 5-7yrs.....ive been here 11.

3 votes

#17.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:29 AM EDT

Ah, I see what you mean, now. Of course, that raises the question of why it wasn't spotlighted before the projects were torn down, but I think we already know the answer to that one.

4 votes

#17.5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/24/national/main6514022.shtml

Crime has always been higher in the inner cities simply because that is where poverty was concentrated. but after Bush and the Republicans ran this country into the ground, and the number of white families living in poverty has increased crime is rising in the suburbs at a fairly alarming rate and "white on white" crime is rising.

Source? Everything I've seen says crime has been dropping since the mid '90's.

Oh look, crime is down.

#17.6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT

Everything I've seen says crime has been dropping since the mid '90's.

...and the incarceration rate continued to rise.

5 votes

#17.7 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:24 PM EDT

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09008/940275-57.stm

Suburban communities seeing rise in violent crime

8 Jan 2009 ... Suburban communities seeing rise in violent crime. Thursday, January 08, 2009. By Moriah Balingit, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ...

3 votes

#17.8 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2011/0526_metropolitan_crime_kneebone_raphael/0526_metropolitan_crime_k...

City and Suburban Crime Trends in Metropolitan America

26 May 2011 ... than a quarter of regions saw city crime rates fall as suburban violent crime rates increased. Together, these trends meant that the gap ...

3 votes

#17.9 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

Lol! All you have is one area of a Pittsburgh suburb (2 more murders than the year before!) and a report that agrees with me.

Fantastic.

#17.10 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:09 AM EDT

Rowdytroute

I think Boortz is auditioning for the open Glen Beck spot on Fox....Hatred of a certain population is a pre-requisite for being on a Fox program.... He is every bit as sick as Beck is.....

6 votes

#18 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

coloradoan-1141358

Since when does the term "thug" have a color? I was reading an article about the riots in Vancouver due to their Stanley Cup loss and they referred to the rioters as "thugs". Most of the people in the the photos that I saw were white.

5 votes

#19 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:39 PM EDT

Professor 120

Great job people Neal Boortz rating just went up 5000%

Advertisers are pouring millions of dollars to his show just to advertise be on his show.

If you don't like what you hear ....turn the radio off of get your own radio station

1 vote

#20 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

Rowdytroute

I cannot find any site that says Boortz has an increase of 5000% in ratings or any direct advertisers for Neal Boortz on the web....Advertiser sites for Boortz either come up page no longer on the web or just more stories about him, no advertisers names mentioned....

If someone can enlighten us all and post all advertisers for Boortz show please post them...I for one will boycott all of them..

I will not lower myself and listen to that show....

3 votes

#20.1 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

Professor 120Deleted

kappa_man_stew

colorodoan

put the words urban (=inner city) and thug together, voila! an anti black, anti hispanic rant.

3 votes

#22 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

ma91744-1401618

Living in a large city myself, I have to agree with him. His rant is not racist, if you live in a large city, and see the graffiti and "thugs" (really wussies) you'll probably know what he is referring to.

2 votes

#23 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

JAVE

It seems clear the writer was refering to Black people. Who else is commiting most of the crimes the writer mentions in Atlanta?

The problem seems more the people that are commiting these crimes and not the desire of others to shoot them in the streets.

2 votes

#24 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT

BLOGER-486140

Sound like grampy needs his XLax again.

#25 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

crawdaddy

I am a proud native of the city of Atlanta. I am actually from the city of Decatur which is an early suburb of Atlanta. Most people who say they are from Atlanta are actually from the suburbs.

I am no fan of Neal Boortz. I find him to be a self absorbed blowhard. However, I don't believe Neal is a racist. His producer for many, many years was Royal Marshall, a black man. He also got Herman Cain on the scene. Neal says controversial things while acting like a jerk. That is his shtick. However, I have to agree with Neal on this one. Twenty years ago, Atlanta was one of the nicest cities in the the country. Great weather, nice roads, plenty of things to do, beautiful women, nice people, trees everywhere. Now days: terrible roads, horrible traffic, everyone acts like a jerk, crime everywhere. There is no where in the Metro area where you can escape crime.

There are many reasons for the crime. It seems to me, along with many of the normal transplants, every two bit hustler, run out of their home town, moved to Atlanta. They brought their tired old cons and scams. They also brought their gang violence. Add in the other 500,000 Third Worlder's and you've got quite the melting pot. The Olympics ruined that place. Also, I blame the city of Atlanta for the ruination of the suburbs. Most of the crime in the metro were centered around housing projects. These projects were getting very old and needed to be replaced or renovated. What the housing authority decided to do, was to put everyone that lived in the projects on section 8. Meanwhile the city council is buying all of the property surrounding the projects for next to nothing. they then demolish the housing projects. Soon after, the gentrification begins. Property values rise, crime goes down, tax revenue goes up. The government look great, having increased revenue and lowered the crime rate. What happens to all of the people who used to live in the projects? They moved off to the suburbs. Section 8 pays $1200 a month for a family. Not enough money to rent a nice house in the city. But you can rent a real nice place in the suburbs. It was living in the harsh urban surroundings that caused people in the projects to turn to crime. Right? Wrong! Those section 8 people brought their criminality with them. Now, there is are gang problems in the suburbs. Imagine that you paid $200,000 for you house. Working hard to pay your house off and the family next door is paying no rent and is destroying their surroundings. I have personally been in some of these section 8 houses, to do renovation work, and have witnessed the destruction. One of these houses is a newer three story house with at three thousand square feet. The master bedroom was at least seven hundred square feet. The house had at least twenty thousand dollars worth of damage. With the competition of the government paying a set amount of rent causes the rent in neighborhoods without section 8 to be be sky high. It is almost impossible to live anywhere near the city for a family that is not wealthy or on welfare. You have to be able to live in a high income area, just to send you kids to a decent school. If you can't afford that neighborhood, you send your children to a private school. If you can not afford a private school, you home school your children.

Don't believe me? Read the Atlanta Journal Constitution. I moved away years ago and still read the AJC for the pure craziness that is the ATL. Go visit the city, tell me how safe it is. When I still lived in the state, I would not go to Atlanta without a firearm. This is the reality of Atlanta.

4 votes

#26 - Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:49 PM EDT

ATLien-3639970

Boortz left Atlanta not because of the thugs, but because black people are everywhere in the city itself and the metro area. Regardless of the socio-economic status of the area, black people can be found in pretty good numbers in almost every county in the metro except Forsyth and even that is changing. Atlanta has both a lot of poor black people and also a lot of very wealthy black people. As a 30 something WM who grew up in Atlanta, I can tell you first hand that some, not all, but some white people just dont like the fact that regardless how much they paid for their condo/house, black people will always be around. And I suspect that Boortz falls in the latter category.

3 votes

#27 - Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:17 PM EDT

Please show your proof/source?

1 vote

#27.1 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

According to the TEABagger handbook as professed by it's pedo head (the Beckmonster, scaring children and their parents for 40 years), it's now up to you to prove him wrong. Some people say that Boortz left Atlanta because there were too many black people living in his neighborhood. That's all the evidence needed in today's world (it's in the TEABagger handbook, after all).

2 votes

#27.2 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

it's now up to you to prove him wrong

How does one prove a negative such as this, exactly?

Because when I was a kid, my debate coach said you are supposed to give sources for your information.

With all of the fallacies in your post you would probably get schooled by a Freshman, in high-school.

2 votes

#27.3 - Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:50 AM EDT

Reading comprehension seems to be something you would do well to practice.

1 vote

#27.4 - Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:13 AM EDT

Nothing of value so you resort to a personal attack. Yup, that's the mark of someone that can actually debate. /s/

#27.5 - Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:24 AM EDT

Responding in kind to your personal insults.

1 vote

#27.6 - Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:52 AM EDT