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A public school district in Mississippi continues to operate predominately single-raced schools, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, which has filed a motion in federal court to order the district to develop an plan to integrate.
Department of Justice: Mississippi County, Miss. Continues Segregated Schools
Seeded on Mon May 9, 2011 7:32 AM EDT
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Mississippi is what Mississippi does.
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Don't forget about the 500 Republican Mississippian's who were surveyed and majorly thought an inter-racial marriage was wrong.
Back woods country
- 7 votes
I know from living in the South at one time, that many rural countires are almost all black, so integration is a problem. However, I saw for myself the bigotry when my son came home from high school telling me how his "favorite" teacher had made an error in grammar, he caught it & she & the other students laughed it off. (Grammar Nazi in the making-lol)Then when the class was over & they were in the hall, one of the guys in his class came up to him, slapped him on the back & said: (and I quote)
"You sure made that N**** look bad." AND THIS WAS AT AN UPSCALE HIGH SCHOOL IN ATLANTA! It was all I could to to get him to finish out the term. He's still that way today & he makes me immensely proud; he judges people on "the content of their character, NOT the color of their skin."
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Mississippi isn't the only state with this probem. And how do you coorect a problem like this when the majority of the residents are black. I don't think you will find a large student body of caucasians in South Central LA. mostly black and hispanic. Some LA schools are mainly Asian popuplation.
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This is a non-story. Do the black students at the black schools three miles away from the white schools get an inferior education? The article doesn't say. But fine, go ahead and bus the black students to the white schools, and vice-versa, if it makes you feel better.
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Don't forget about the 500 Republican Mississippian's who were surveyed and majorly thought an inter-racial marriage was wrong.
I was watching Bill Maher when I first heard about this "poll." It was fascinating to listen to him describe how, since 46% of Mississippi Republicans thought interracial marriage should be banned, and since all tea-partiers are Republicans, then all tea-partiers are racist. I felt like I was getting a Lesson In Logic from Monty Python. I've read several news articles about this "poll" and every one only says "Mississippi Republicans" with no reference to the race of the respondants, but every assumption is that 100% of them are white. My problem with that is that I know for a fact that in some black families and communities, it is considered traitorous to marry a white person. There's no fairness in reporting anymore.
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I felt like I was getting a Lesson In Logic from Monty Python
Pretty much whenever someone starts off by bashing (R) or (D) followers, I just ignore everything they have to say.
Makes sifting through the BS so much quicker and easier if you ask me.
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I love that everybody is so PC these days. Let me ask you this, if you lived in a mostly african-american area would you send your white son or daughter to the school in that area? If you said yes to that question than you are just asking for problems. Constant stories in the news around VA talk about how caucasian kids are getting "jumped"in school just b/c they are white. Racism DOES go both ways. Now take that same question and reverse the race of the student. If you lived in a mostly white area, would you send your african-american child to a school in that area. Chances are that you would and wouldn't worry about repercussions to your decision. Now what about that seems right?
- 4 votes
can balmes Republican all you want ...But remember Mississippi had Democratic Governors from 1874 to 1992 only, a point you will fail to make. Let us also remind you how how Democrat Governors of Mississippi led the charge to end slavery in Mississippi (March 16, 1995, after having rejected it on December 5, 1865)ooops sorry Fordice(R-MS) was Governor then. and that the likes of one of my political heroes Hiram Rhodes Revels was never heard of again when democrats got control of the State in 1874...spin this all you want but with a 118 years of nothing but Democrat governors, it is not going to fly...if your going to pin this on Republicans your going have to prove that this started in just the last few years...but you cant segregation has been around since Mississippi became a part of the U.S.A and legalized by the Democrat party in 1896(see plessy v ferguson).That is why that you (lefty) now needs to dredge up your own history and put it on the Republican...because watch after these comments you will...specifically of the 13th ammendment subject or school segration in the south by democratic Governors who won their elections with the "klan vote" you will dispute this and anything said about your precious party...but note as the seeder said:
Mississippians are a bred unlike any other
That in the History of Mississippi there have been 2 Governors Fordice and Barbour since the reconstruction period and 3 1871 to 1876...and prior 1 whig...nothing but Democrats. 63 governors 6 non democrats. This state is a state that has history and roots that are in the Democrat Party...and now when something racial happens you blame a Democrat? How hypocritical....The Democrat has no historical evidence to blame any racial issues on anything other than the Democrat party. Because there is no history in MS other than the Democrat party.
- 1 vote
Like the state spelling the people keep repeating them selves, their still in the 19th century, and everyone else is in the 21st.
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That is why that you (lefty)
This is a personal attack on a Viner, not allowed. Attacked the material with facts and not the person, thanks.
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#1.9----Because there is no history in MS other than the Democrat party.
BUZZ! Wrong association of history.
Because there is no history in MS other than the party currently endorsing racism.
Now, your logic is corrected. Neither party is responsible for racism -- the people are racists first, political second.
Racism was rampant in Southern politics then predominantly Democratic. When the Democratic Party supported the Civil Rights movement, the Republicans lured the racist factor away from voting Democratic by the Southern Strategy during early Nixon years -- actually, going back to Goldwater.
IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. The common value is their racism -- not their political allegience. Racists voted Democratic, after Civil Rights legislation, then they voted Republican.
It's the same folks you see in the push to privatize schools as a way to reverse Civil Rights and return to the days of segregation, by race and by class (financial advantage).
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When the Democratic Party supported the Civil Rights movement
And when was that?
AFTER the Republicans forced the civil rights act thru congress?
Story artist
your name sums up the what you try to explain away....next time use facts to do so.
Racism was rampant in Southern politics then predominantly Democratic. When the Democratic Party supported the Civil Rights movement, the Republicans lured the racist factor away from voting Democratic by the Southern Strategy during early Nixon years -- actually, going back to Goldwater
Note that this is not accurate, and also dixiecrats is not a valid reference either...When you say as the so called Democrat supporting civil rights in 1964, there were 26 previous bills prior, since 1934 to that which were considered civil rights bills the democrat vote on all bills equaled 80 percent voting no, including the bill of 1964. Read Allen Drury's "Congress Makes a Decision" from the 1965 World Book Yearbook and read what actually happened...better you learn for yourself how this bill was not a priority for Kennedy...creating jobs through a tax cut was.
Because there is no history in MS other than the party currently endorsing racism
We are talking about a one party state...when we talk about about the evils of racism politically we are talking the Democrat party with 200 years history and in MS of 191 years of history we are talking about 20 years with Republicans 8 years in the 1990's and 8 years since 2003 and 4 years reconstruction. So we are talking about a one party state.
IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. The common value is their racism ....no it is not the same people as in your example Democrat is as Democrat does...they took racism and moved to institutional racism...they find ways to keep people down...it is a what your are trying to do now...in one form or another...and this article is nothing more than a chance to use racism as a political tool. Because now what you use people of color for is a shield against your political activities whilst you try to gain control of this country and turn the U.S. into a one party system....
And this epic failure:
It's the same folks you see in the push to privatize schools as a way to reverse Civil Rights and return to the days of segregation, by race and by class (financial advantage)
and it is an epic failure (see DC Voucher program and Pennsylvania) were vouchers are given out so that minorities can attend private schools but the Democrat and unions are against this..which effectively does not allow minorities from low income families to attend Private schools......
Epic failure
Sorry -- I recognize this rhetoric coming from the modern Confederacy. It doesn't impress me because it distorts facts and hides manipulation and intention.
your name sums up the what you try to explain away....next time use facts to do so.
The insults of a cowardly argument. An old tool of the South.
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because it distorts facts and hides manipulation and intention.
And your rhetoric doesn't?
1.5 deleted for name calling.
Story artist
your name sums up the what you try to explain away....next time use facts to do so.
malcontentious, unnecessary to make a point.
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There are Two problems.
1. People who have money are sending there children to privet schools.
2. The Public schools are not getting the funding that is needed to improve them.
Then there is the problem with public Charter Schools that are located in Area's that are Mostly White. And both black and white's who live in low income area's are being short changed with bad schools and teacher's that are less qualified.
There are other reasons but that is just a few of the problem's of a lot of school systems in this country and it is not just in the South.
- 10 votes
#2 - Mon May 9, 2011 8:02 AM EDTOf Cleveland's 3,491 students, 68 percent are Black and 29 percent White, according to the AP.
Ahem...the WHITE Students are the MINORITY here.....
- 4 votes
At one side of the tracks.
The other school was
“Cleveland High School, which is the on the west side is 47 percent African-American; 50 percent white; 2 percent Hispanic and 1 percent Asian," she told the AP. “Cleveland High used to be 100 percent white.”
What's your point anyway, tobiii??? It doesn't even seem like you have one.
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And why do you think that is? I suspect it is because they do not send there child to a Public School if they have the money to send them to a Privet School and they do not want to provide the funds to public schools. Every since De Segregation, home Schooling and Privet Schools have increased. And funding for a Public Education has gone down. Explain that If you Can?
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lol DC. Grammar Nazi here, too. So you will like this I just heard a while back: 50% of the English Language is made up of French words. I started paying attention, & it appears it's true! ( Sorry I got off topic.)
- 2 votes
And funding for a Public Education has gone down. Explain that If you Can?
Link please, showing that funding for public schools has DECREASED..................
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The issue is not segregation vs. integration any longer. It used to be, but, not now.
The problem is; the public school system is targeted by the extremists on the right to keep the nation down in a hole of uneducated and uninformed.
A man who kinows nothing is so much easier to lead than a thinking man.
- 5 votes
#3 - Mon May 9, 2011 8:55 AM EDTIn Mississippi it was about segregation also...they just figured out how to slip by...it's a wonder it's taken this long for the Feds to catch on about the 'private schools'. Mississippi gets Federal money for schools too.
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I know that Lt Dan, but by using all the Fed money on 'public' schools and not much State money, they use State money on the 'private' schools. You have to live there to figure out how they do it. It's a con game like playing a slot machine, always a win for them.
- 1 vote
it does if there's a "tax deduction" for sending your child to private school.
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It's not called a 'private school' deduction
Mississippi tax code 2010:
Tuition under Educational Assistance Programs
Scholarship grants –tuition and fees
Chapter 05 Exempt Organizations
Cemetery corporations; religious, charitable, educational or scientific associations or institutions, including any community chest, funds or foundations, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific or educational purposes or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private stockholder or individual.
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Note the population and the median household income:
here's a snapshot of how one county does it:
Census
Population: 18,393
Predominant Race: Black (55%)
Predominant Language: English (95%)
Median Household Income: $24,988
Public Schools
Total Schools: 18
Traditional Schools: 14
Vocational Schools: 2
Alternative Schools: 2
Number of Title I Schools: 9
Number of Students: 9,132
Full-Time Teachers: 675
Private Schools
Total Schools: 3
Traditional Schools: 3
Number of Students: 654
Full-Time Teachers: 38
Immaculate Conception School (now closed)
Laurel Christian High School
St. John's Day School [1] (part of the Episcopal Church)
Laurel Christian High School is spread across three different churches in Laurel.
Covenant Presbyterian Church (PCA) hosts the kindergarten, Audubon Drive Bible Church hosts the elementary, and
Westminster Presbyterian Church (EPC) hosts the high school.
Mississippi tax code 2010:
Tuition under Educational Assistance Programs
Scholarship grants –tuition and fees
That doesn't say individuals get a tax break for tuition. And so what if they do? They're still paying property tax that covers the public schools.
because the 'schools' also are tax exempt...because they do keep the property tax low thus less money for the public schools.
Because if you are white and have money or connections, your child goes to the private school -read all white. There are such things as 'scholarships' too in case you don't have enough money.
There are not all counties in Mississippi that still do this but there are way more than there should be. It is a situation that keeps the public schools poor and Mississippi is like 47th on the educational level. Keeping a State with poorly funded schools is not good government. Allowing or overlooking segregation of a sort to maintain the 'status quo' is also not good government. It is the way to get elected in Mississippi though.
- 2 votes
In some states -- that's the GOAL. That the children never bypass the parents in the smarts department. Enough said. And goals are met. Segregation is necessary to create a pocket of the population they can point to and feel superior to -- since their own education is so lacking.
- 4 votes
You know what I find to be absolutely hilarious about seeds like this?
Those on here screaming about how wrong this is and how it's segregation, are ALSO the same folks who will get on seeds about the "special" all Black schools and say what a great thing those are.
Which is it? Is "segregation" ONLY good when it's something that is designed by and for your group? Or is it always bad?
- 1 vote
I would say something here but...... If the shoe fits and only you can make that distinction.
Not sure what standard I will be held to here.
Dam, some days I am petty.
- 2 votes
#5 - Mon May 9, 2011 9:49 AM EDTif the republicans have their way, this will no longer be an issue as the public school system will be nonexistent. only those with money will be able to send their kids to private schools. the rest of us will be sending our kids to the new nike factory where they can make less than a buck an hour. who said the republicans didn't have a plan for creating jobs?
- 1 vote
#6 - Mon May 9, 2011 9:57 AM EDTAccording to the Census.. Cleveland, MS, is 49% white and 48% black or African American. The county itself is 65% black or African American and 33% white. The Cleveland School district reflects 67% African American and 31% white. Located within the city's limits are two private schools, (I will leap to a conclusion that they are mostly white)... Presbyterian Day School (PK-6) and Bayou Academy (PK-12). Private schools are fee based, with the exception of scholarships which might be given to the more athletically gifted both black and white.
The lawsuit is against a public school system that is 67% African American.
It occurs to me that the adults are segregating themselves, not the schools and the majority of all sides, in the area, prefer their schools to be this way. The power to do something about the segregation appears more complex than just a majority race v minority race issue, imo and the usual stereotype of the region may not apply, in referencing this school district.
- 3 votes
#7 - Mon May 9, 2011 10:30 AM EDTAnd you though AZ was bad fighting ILLEGAL immigrants.
http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/news-politics/phoenix-arizona-kidnapping-capital-usa
#8 - Mon May 9, 2011 11:03 AM EDTAs long as Haley Barbour is running around down there like Boss Hogg, there will be problems like this...
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#9 - Mon May 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDTWe naturally segregate, any social science experiment will tell you that fact. So, let people choose to live and go to school where they want to go to school. Forcing people to get along never works, and this Administration has proven that social experiment.
- 1 vote
#10 - Mon May 9, 2011 1:03 PM EDTHumans only naturally segregate when standards aren't kept. There are certain people that get in a position where they can insure that there is a separation by race. They were either raised that way or they came to that conclusion on their own.
Civil Rights wasn't and still isn't a social experiment, it is a method to insure that people that force segregation can't by law. It is truly sad that opportunities such as schooling, work, riding a bus up front, etc where held hostage by a few for so long.
America is a melting pot, all Americans regardless of race, gender or religion are deemed equal by law. That is what makes the US strong and better than any other nation.
- 1 vote
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