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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell

Is there any limit to the outrageousness of the GOP lies?

Is there any limit to the capacity of a large number of our fellow citizens to accept these lies?

If it were in the interest of the ruling oligarchs to convince a majority of the public that the earth is flat, could they succeed?

This is, after all, a public almost half of which refuses to accept evolution – the central coordinating concept of modern biology. And approximately half of the GOP primary voters believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

These unsettling thoughts came to my mind when I heard Michael Steele remark that "not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job." This from a man who held a government job as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. That remark was echoed by Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana and Sarah Palin and I can testify that I have heard it elsewhere.

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PowerIsKnowledge

The claim that government never creates jobs is so preposterous that it seems pointless even to bother to refute it.

Yet somehow, some GOP politicians freely utter this absurdity without fear of being laughed off the stage of public debate. And apparently some people, failing to give the claim even a moment’s critical reflection, believe it....

And this is only the most egregious of a long string of Republican lies thrown at the public by right-wing politicians and pundits and largely unchallenged by a complaint corporate media.

This says alot about who their base really is.

5 votes

#1 - Sun May 8, 2011 8:44 AM EDT

Coral Atlas

Frankly - after the success of our Government in saving the auto industry - you have to wonder if OUR Government aka all of us ..... shouldn't oversee the corpocracy and get rid of all the waste and greed and dishonesty and unfairness in America.

This nation doesn't need billionaires to succeed. American workers provides 98% of everything including the knowledge and intellectual capital.

6 votes

#2 - Sun May 8, 2011 9:29 AM EDT

PowerIsKnowledge

This nation doesn't need billionaires to succeed. American workers provides 98% of everything including the knowledge and intellectual capital.

I agree!

4 votes

#2.1 - Sun May 8, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

merleliz

you have to wonder if OUR Government aka all of us ..... shouldn't oversee the corpocracy and get rid of all the waste and greed and dishonesty and unfairness in America.

Maybe we ought to start with getting rid of the waste and greed and dishonesty and unfairness in our government.

#2.2 - Mon May 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

PowerIsKnowledge

Maybe we ought to start with getting rid of the waste and greed and dishonesty and unfairness in our government.

I agree merleliz but can you give us suggestions as to how we can do that?

1 vote

#2.3 - Mon May 9, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

merleliz

Ahhh...there's the rub...you are never going to get the fox to vote himself out of access to the henhouse.

I don't blame any one political party for the problems we are facing, I blame them both...there has been blatant corruption and deceit in both parties...one tends to look on the problems coming from one's "own" side as negligible...but if you are truly honest, you know that it is both of them.

I think you need to start with some type of campaign finance reform...but it needs to be a universal reform. For example, we can't forbid corporations to donate to political parties...but allow unions to donate to the party of their choice....we have to limit donations for both sides.

Keep both parties from running 24/7 ads that blast the other guy...keep both parties from running 24/7 ads, period. People who are blindly partisan (and we can see many examples here on the Vine) are going to vote for their party no matter what. People who are not, who are looking for the best candidate to represent their views, are going to do a little research on their own..so they aren't swayed by the 24/7 ad campaigns anyway.

BUT...if the politicians were not indebted to the people who donated their campaign money...that would be one less source of bribery, one less reason for them to have to pass "payback" legislation.

2 votes

#2.4 - Mon May 9, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

PowerIsKnowledge

merleliz, I think you need to start with some type of campaign finance reform...but it needs to be a universal reform. For example, we can't forbid corporations to donate to political parties...but allow unions to donate to the party of their choice....we have to limit donations for both sides.

We need finance reform big time! The way it's set up now, the common man can't run because he can't finance his campaign. Limiting donations is one way of reforming the system but how much is too much?

2 votes

#2.5 - Mon May 9, 2011 7:22 PM EDT

Coral Atlas

When 2% of americans have more wealth then 50% combined - guess who wins the political financial tennis match that we call elections?

The GOP is a party that owns 50% of american voters with only 2% of americans supporting them.

Why the surprise that the 98% are whom the GOP wants to convince to bend over?

1 vote

#2.6 - Tue May 10, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

PowerIsKnowledge

Why the surprise that the 98% are whom the GOP wants to convince to bend over?

Coral Atlas, what a visual!

2 votes

#2.7 - Tue May 10, 2011 8:36 PM EDT

obie-one

If this Nation doesn't start getting some help from Corporate America soon, the re-emergence of the WPA should be implemented. We are walking down the path to where it will eventually be our last hope of getting this Country back to work.

We certainy have the work force, the need of plenty of our infrastucture to be fixed and enough hopelessness to go around in our economy.

It is well past the time for this to be put before Corporate America and seriously considered. If they ( Corporate America) truely do not want the government in their business then they should in earnest either say that they cannot do anymore than done or pony up.

We are wasting time wating to see what will happen.......

The WPA was implemented by President Roosevelt around 1935 during the Depression to get this Country back to work. Guess that doesn't count either as the government creating jobs...........

2 votes

#3 - Sun May 8, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

DocPhil

Without government, we have anarchy. With anarchy, you will not have private industry. It could be argued that government, at least indirectly, creates all jobs, since it is the glue that binds society together.

The republiCON-fascists would like people to believe their big lie. It is easier to develop a plutocracy of corporations when the people believe that the big brother corporation works in their best interests, rather than in its own best interests. The truth is, the GOP and big business always act in their own interests. They try to manipulate government to create loopholes to distribute as much of the wealth as possible to their interest groups.

They will then argue that all they are doing is following the law as it is written, and if we don't like it, we should change it; all the while smirking and knowing that they've rigged the playing field in their favor.

4 votes

#4 - Sun May 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT

Coral Atlas

DocPhil - well put as usual ...

on a somewhat related note - you have to wonder about states cutting unemployment benefits like Florida - instead of increasing unemployment related taxes on corporations who are making profits hand over fist thanks to guess what -unemployment!

Increasing unemployment taxes would help to balance the cost of unemployment while providing corporations with a financial incentive to improve the situation and retrain and rehabilitate workers instead of throwing them on the garbage heap!

This governor guy in Florida is a white collar criminal and a total creep. It doesn't say much for those who voted for him either.

3 votes

#4.1 - Tue May 10, 2011 10:51 AM EDT

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