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John Stossel, libertarian activist and journalist, interviewed right wing radical Fox News entertainer Glenn Beck, and asked him why he became a Mormon.
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John Stossel, libertarian activist and journalist, interviewed right wing radical Fox News entertainer Glenn Beck, and asked him why he became a Mormon.
If we had more to listen to, I wonder if the message would have changed?
I was curious about that myself, Grandpa. But I'm also curious, if it turns out he's only joking, will you find it any less disrespectful?
Those who truly believe Sex outside of marriage is a mortal sin, who try to live by what they believe would not find it disrespectful.
You don't find it disrespectful for a man to claim he converted to Mormonism to get tail? I've read many of your posts Grandpa. I find it hard to believe you wouldn't be offended by Beck's statements, joking or not, based on your views from your other posts.
I find it honest, is being honest disrespectful? The important thing is what did he do with the conversion after he got married, was it a real conversion?
Grandpa, as you know the two of us have disagreed on a lot. But I've at least always respected what you say you believe. Now you just come across as full of @!$%#, and my respect just isn't there anymore. Shame on you for making excuses for Beck's disrespectful comments about your religion, simply because he converted to it and parrots the kind of hateful things you believe in.
You know the nice thing is that those who judge, what I believe in, by my actions, are in left field. I am sure many will think I should not say that. You think Becks comments are disrespectful, could it be that you do not understand where Glenn is comming from and you are judging him from you point of view. You know the old native american saying never judge a man untill you have walked in his mocosins and on his trail for a couple of miles.
I've seen where Glenn walks, GP. He is a liar. He is a thug. He is a degenerate. I have no interest in trying on his shoes.
But you should feel free to hold him up as an example of a good Mormon.
I respect his honesty and more I respect his decision. A good relationship needs a strong religious backbone to improve the odds of success.
Im sorry i cant agree with you on the religious backbone. My fiance is Hindu and i believe in god but not the church (i was catholic) and our relationship thrives on our communication skill. We have talked about money, kids, education and even our religious difference. I respect his and he respect that i don't believe in the church. And we plan on raising our future children opened to respect all religions and people. And most couples divorce because of finances so we talked a great deal about it to make sure we're on the same page. I think glen beck is wrong and so is Prop 8 the government is supposed to separate church and country AND as long as people are American citizens who obey the law and pay their taxes they should receive the same legal rights as any other American citizen. As long as the relationship is consensual and the participants are of legal age why should one American be denied same legal rights as another American. Just because one religious group decided its morally wrong. No whats morally wrong is we have priest who allow their fellow priest to rape children and they protect them instead of allowing the police and investigatorsget to the truth and deliver justice. All Americans should be treated equally under law and the Constitution
Hey, why not also burn the books of the mormons? And why are they called Jesus Christ church of the latter day saints when their prophet is Joseph Smith????
zugbah-1110911 you're off topic. This thread is not about the burning of any religious books.
The real name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, it is named that because we believe Jesus is the head of the Church.
zugbah: i agree they allow Mr smith to dictate how they live rather then interpret the bible to the true meaning of god. Love, honor, respect, no one perfect and only GOD can pass judgement not the church dont discriminate because i am in every living things. To offer a hand of love and not hate. AND correct me if im wrong but dont most churches practice the opposite of this? they discriminate against gays and shame/ban them. there's this one story i remember that everyone shunned a leopard colonies and other people but not god he went there with open arms and love and accepted them for who they were. to me it seems like most churches have forgotten and misinterpreted gods true teaching.
everyone else please correct me if my wrong but the Utah Mormons had many wives and some were quite young is this a common practice?
But its not written in your bible...it is Joseph Smith...... kindly erase all my post since its out of the topic.Thanks
Ines-401267 zugbah: i agree they allow Mr smith to dictate how they live rather then interpret the bible to the true meaning of god.
Brigham Young took over after Joseph Smith was killed.
Love, honor, respect, no one perfect and only GOD can pass judgement not the church dont discriminate because i am in every living things. To offer a hand of love and not hate. AND correct me if im wrong but dont most churches practice the opposite of this? they discriminate against gays and shame/ban them. there's this one story i remember that everyone shunned a leopard colonies and other people but not god he went there with open arms and love and accepted them for who they were. to me it seems like most churches have forgotten and misinterpreted gods true teaching.
You're point on with the above comment.
everyone else please correct me if my wrong but the Utah Mormons had many wives and some were quite young is this a common practice?
In 1851, Brigham was appointed governor and superintendent of Indian Affairs of Utah Territory by U.S. President Millard Fillmore. His principal problem as governor was dealing with the "outside" federal appointees, many of whom were, from any point of view, both unsympathetic to the Church and inexcusably incompetent. There were problems over small federal expenditures, the failure of Saints to use federal judges in cases of civil disputes, the lack of tact of the federally appointed officials in discussing the Church, their opposition to the union of church and state, and their assumption that Latter-day Saints were immoral because of their tolerance of plural marriage.
By the time of his death, Brigham Young had married twenty-seven women, sixteen of whom bore him fifty-six children. He died on August 29, 1877, apparently of peritonitis, the result of a ruptured appendix.
Doctrine of Plural Marriage:
Plural marriage is not essential to salvation or exaltation. Nephi and his people were denied the power to have more than one wife and yet they could gain every blessing in eternity that the Lord ever offered to any people. In our day, the Lord summarized by revelation the whole doctrine of exaltation and predicated it upon the marriage of one man to one woman. (D. & C. 132:1-28.) Thereafter he added the principles relative to plurality of wives with the express stipulation that any such marriages would be valid only if authorized by the President of the Church. (D. & C. 132:7, 29-66.)
History of Plural Marriage/Polygamy:
Although certain that God would require it of him and of the Church, Joseph Smith would not have introduced it when he did except for the conviction that God required it then. Several close confidants later said that he proceeded with plural marriage in Nauvoo only after both internal struggle and divine warning. Lorenzo Snow later remembered vividly a conversation in 1843 in which the Prophet described the battle he waged "in overcoming the repugnance of his feelings" regarding plural marriage.
"He knew the voice of God—he knew the commandment of the Almighty to him was to go forward—to set the example, and establish Celestial plural marriage. He knew that he had not only his own prejudices and pre-possessions to combat and to overcome, but those of the whole Christian world…; but God…had given the commandment" [The Biography and Family Record of Lorenzo Snow, pp. 69-70 (Salt Lake City, 1884)].
Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible:
The Book of Mormon presents an account of a vision in which an angel, looking to the future, describes the Bible as a "record of the Jews" containing writings of "the prophets" and of the "Twelve Apostles of the Lamb." The vision asserts (1) that the ancient authors wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, (2) that originally their words contained the fulness of the gospel and were plain and easy to understand, but (3) that many things which were plain and precious, and many covenants, would be "taken away" from the original manuscripts; as a result, afterward (4) a great many persons, even with a Bible, would not understand the fulness of the gospel, but (5) the lost material would be restored through "other records" that the Lord would bring forth (1 Ne. 13:21-41). A somewhat parallel statement came to Joseph Smith in June 1830 while he was restoring a revelation received by Moses, declaring that many things would be taken "from the book" which Moses would write, but that the missing information would be restored through another prophet and thus be "had again" among those who believe (Moses 1:41). Latter-day Saints believe that the "other records" referred to include the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, the JST, and other records still to come forth, and that the prophet divinely raised up to begin restoring the lost material is Joseph Smith (see Scriptures: Forthcoming Scriptures). In light of the foregoing statements, it is worth observing that the principal difficulty in the Bible apparently has been omissions. The remaining text may be generally correct in itself, but many important doctrinal items (resulting from the loss of a single word, a verse, a longer passage, or even whole books in some instances) are now missing.
: i agree they allow Mr smith to dictate how they live rather then interpret the bible to the true meaning of god.
We do not even allow Mr Smith to dictate how we live. We have a living Prophet to day who recieves revelation from Jesus Christ, we believe Jesus can Change anything He want, anytime He wants
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Too bad Glen Beck's "like hot" wife who "wouldn't have sex with him until they got married" wasn't Muslim. Then they'd be burning Glen Beck in effigy in Florida in addition to the Quran.
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