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Obama's Southern Problem—And Ours

Seeded on Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
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"The New South," wrote journalist Robert Scheer in the 1970s, "is the Old South with air conditioning."

Unfortunately, even 30 years of central home air hasn't cooled the white heat of the South.

In the midst of the great Obama victory last November, an overwhelming percentage of white voters in the states of the former Confederacy rejected the first Black president, even as many of them voted down ballot for Democrats.

The South—Old or New—remains the heartland of opposition to all things progressive, posing a formidable threat to the new administration's agenda.

For instance, every southern Republican senator voted against Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. The dependable opposition to health care reform lies centered in the South and will remain so.

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PowerIsKnowledge

In short, whites whose roots lie in the slave South seem to vote as if Jim Crow were still alive.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:05 PM EDT
RoboticParadox

In other words, 2+2=4.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:10 PM EDT
Kate In Greensboro

In the midst of the great Obama victory last November, an overwhelming percentage of white voters in the states of the former Confederacy rejected the first Black president, even as many of them voted down ballot for Democrats.

Says who?

Alec Dubro, the author of the article, doesn't cite his sources, but I find his claim dubious.

For instance, every southern Republican senator voted against Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

That is a fact, but it is a fact that says more about those Republican senators than it does about the residents of the states they represent. North Carolina's Republican senator Richard Burr, for example, voted against it, but North Carolina sent a loud and clear message in the November election when we chose Democrat Kay Hagan to represent us in the U.S. Senate and politely told Republican incumbant Elizabeth Dole her services were no longer needed.

The author is drawing some conclusions he might not be safe in drawing; this white voter from North Carolina may be only one example, but I say he's wrong.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT
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CCArm

Right now, the Democratic Party is perceived as a Black party, attending to the needs of African Americans.”

Or the "welfare" party, espoused by those who don't want to appear bigoted. They don't want us pulling the "race card", but overlooking it, IMHO, is far worse.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:34 PM EDT
Joe-392005

In short, whites whose roots lie in the slave South seem to vote as if Jim Crow were still alive

Hey we don't have slaves in the south no more. Cheaper to hire Mexicans.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
teresa-498430

Hi PowerIsKnowledge, Quite an interesting seed, thanks. The politics of the south are very interesting to me. Whenever I have gone there I find the local and state politics fascinating but disturbing. It is like taking a time machine back to a previous century. Not in a good way either.

  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:59 PM EDT
Kate In Greensboro

I have to ask where in the south you are visiting, teresa?

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT
teresa-498430

Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM EDT
Kate In Greensboro

Perhaps that is the case where you have visited; I've been in Mississippi and Alabama but it's been many, many years and I was visiting on business so I can't say I observed anything about the culture or politics.

I'm in North Carolina and there are some small, rural areas where education is still lagging and attitudes are quite backward, but that is far from common or the norm here.

  • 1 vote
#4.3 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:45 PM EDT
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Indepvoter

I disagree with this article in tone and intent.

I live in the Northwest my dislike of Obama policy has nothing to do with Race his or mine.

I don't want National Healthcare and I didn't want Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. I don't want anymore government, or policy at all. It isn't that I don't want people to have access to healthcare, I work with Medicare, and I know how well it works and how cost effective it isn't. I have posted some articles on Newsvine regarding my concerns.

I didn't want Hilary's health care reform either... I have no idea what healthcare reform has to do with race??? Even those who badly want a Government healthcare program can not agree on how it should be structured, how to pay for it, etc.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
OoAhChi

This is a very good article.. and so true.. Folks that want to say different need to move into these places and find out how things really work. It crosses all lines.. medical, education.. the south just has it's own way.. and in my opinion, detrimental to itself. In trying to deal with delegates at a local level.. well, as I have said to more than one.. stop talking in circles, you are not making any sense! It makes one wonder about this southern mentality. And gee, here I thought that southern hospitality was the norm! ha! No.. one gets circle jerked to death unless one is related to or is a close friend of any who are in a position to make a call, so to speak. This is prevalent in the legal system as well. One is either in or out down here. Even NBC did a study a few years back and found the legal system in Walker County, Al. to be number three in the nation for corruption. Hello? They have a name for their way of living, it just leaves me at this moment. But not unlike those who line one another's pockets in the 'haves' of this nation. These guys just have their own set of rules and that is the way it is! The good ole Hatfield and McCoy mentality.. sure wish the people would catch up with the rest of society.. as in, make sense! get a brain! Here, one is either In or Out, plain and simple.. logic has no place in their thinking. Sorry if I have offended anyone. That is not my purpose. My people are all over the state of Al.. there were just a few of us grandchildren raised outside of the state. Thank God I was one of them! I am not afflicted with judgement and opionionism, favoritism and the like that is so prevalent down here. and yep, I find I am at odds with the thinking of my own people. They just are so narrow-minded and just don't get the bigger picture.. oh well, live and let live.. we each have our own comfort zone. Thank the good lord above that my mind is more expanded due to northern education. In moving here fifteen years ago, one would think I would have fitted in by now.. ha! I am a northerner in their eyes! and forever will be. It is just the way they think.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT
PowerIsKnowledge

Thanks OoAhChi for lending us a point-of-view that comes with experience.

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
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