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Yes We Can!

Wed Nov 5, 2008 5:03 PM EST
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By PowerIsKnowledge
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Faith McGary-699516

Being Native American myself, I see that Mr. Obama did not put ANY Native American Leaders from any of the Nations on his team.  Nothing has changed, just the name.  Mr. Obama will not be for "WE THE PEOPLE".  He has just demonstrated that he is not for "WE THE PEOPLE" by not including the people who were here first, instead.  Not one from his chosen few even stood up for the Native American people.  Somethings will never change.  Frankly, you can call us names (several of you have on this blog site) but we were here first, and how can a man that said he is bring the change this Country needs without starting first with the Native American's.  Yes, your greedy Gov workers have made your $$ disappear before your eyes, let's talk about what they have done to the Native Americans, we have nothing left, it has all been taken from us, you all live on the land that our fathers freely hunted, you have killed the wildlife and trees that graced the land.   You all continue to close your eyes because we are all keeped in a place where no one can see us.  Wake up, if you want change, lets start where this all began, stealing from the Native American's many years ago.  Let's start with making that right.

Faith McGary

Bethlehem, PA

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 10:06 AM EST
PowerIsKnowledge

Faith, don't be angry. It took a lot of hard work and support of President elect Obama's communities for President elect Obama to get where he is today. I do believe President elect Obama is for all the people. My question to you is how many Native Americans are in politics? Are there core groups for him to choose from? Are they visible? I too have been watching for this because in addition to having Irish and African blood running through my veins, I also have Black Feet and Cherokee bloodlines, and we both know the Cherokee doesn't want to recognize Black Americans because they don't want to share the wealth of the casinos. I say to you work in your community to get more Natives involved in politics. Get them elected to political office to build core groups. Stop relying on someone else to get you where you want to be. Let's work together to change the mass population preception of who and what Natives are and work towards getting them to see Natives as viable Americans.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 2:37 PM EST
Angel_C

Faith has posted this same comment all over Newsvine.  While it is a worthwhile sentiment, she won't get any kudos from many for spamming.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 2:40 PM EST
Danny McGee

While it is a worthwhile sentiment

No, it's really not. People who find their identity in their race are the very cause of racism. Equality is blind, and that means you don't go running around bending over backwards to try to find a Native American (or any other specific ethnicity) to fill a position. How many Native American politicians do you know? Sorry, but the majority of politicians in this country are white men. Therefore, it stands to reason that most of Obama's cabinet will be made up of white men. Cherry picking people based on race is one of the worst things Obama could possibly do for this country. I hope he'll make his decisions based solely on qualifications and sound judgment, even if that means every single member of his administration besides him is an old white dude.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 6:10 PM EST
Danny McGee

And as a tangent: I'm sorry, but you were not "here first" unless you were born in the fifteenth century. No one currently alive today was "here before" anyone else. We're all here now, living in a country that's existed for a lot longer than any of us have. I deeply, deeply regret the way the early settlers treated Native Americans when they first came to this continent, but it's a new era, and holding onto centuries-old grudges isn't going to do anyone any good, least of all modern Native Americans.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 6:21 PM EST
Faith McGary-699516

Danny:

Clearly you have no idea how the Native American Nation's are run, and what a reservation is like.  It would be nice if you would do just a little research on this subject.  We do have a right to what was ours and is our.  Did you know the Gov is still taking land from the reservations, and not keeping the current treaty signed?  But, I guess in your view that is how things are done.  These concepts and ideas that you hold so tightly are part of the issues.  We are but one small voice, of many small voices that are not heard.  Many of you want us to be quite and blend with you.  If that is the case why are you making such a celebration of a black president.  Now, I think it is great the a Black person has achieved, but many programs are in place that allowed him to achieve.  He is also part of the Upper Class.  Many Native people have tried, we are educated, we do work main stream, but we should not be required to be "WHITE" in our nature, our believe, how we dress, how we speak.  All People, need to have a voice.  We will never all agree.  Your views are not different that George Bush, you want everyone to be excited like you are for Mr. Obama (glad that you are, by the way) but there are still the rest of the voices, and you should be glad that we have a voice, you should allow us to express our voice with out your negative, feedback, you should be understanding, supportive, and agree that it many not be the way you see things, but entitle us to have the right to have this view point.  Why in America should everyone see things the way you do, or the way 60M people do, why can we not be diverse, why can we not share a different voice and be respected.  We pay taxes, we love this country, we just want to be heard, and to be put where we can be heard.  Where are our 2nd amend rights if we can not have the freedom to talk about issues and be heard.  The George Bush Admin, did not allow people to have a voice, and if you did, you were not American, you are basically do the same thing.  Let's agree to let everyone be heard, let's agree that you will not see my view, but you have not walked in my shoes, let's agree to show kindness in word and deed.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 11:32 AM EST
curioustoknow

Faith, talk to any Native Americans you may know in New Mexico.  We have 22 tribes and pueblos. Most of them have never moved, have always been here and will always be here. Obama came to New Mexico and on his last trip met with tribal leaders at the All Indian Pueblo Cultural Center, was introduced by a tribal governor at this speech in Espanola, and was the candidate of choice by most Native Americans in New Mexico.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 10:43 AM EST
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Common-Sense

Being Native American myself, I see that Mr. Obama did not put ANY Native American Leaders from any of the Nations on his team.

I also noticed he didn't have any "little-people" either. Who does this Obama character think he is only representing people who are over 4 feet tall? What does this liberal elitist know about discrimination?

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 2:51 PM EST
own theory

I take it that all you dislike Obama in a way or another. I don't like him. What will we do for us?  Not a damn thing.

I voted for McCain because I felted he was a hell of a lot better the Mr. President elect here. Didn't care for Sarah too well but still.

Everyone has a right to there own opinion. We have the Freedom to do many things. I fear with Obama in office he will take away many rights we do have.

How could America elect and support someone who turns his back on the American flag???? How I ask?

Yes, this was a historical election. But that is the way people set it up. No matter what the out come would have been it would have been historical.

May honest opinion I think this election was set up like this. No matter the vote I like it was set up for Obama to when.

We elected a non-American to be the President of the United States of America.

Whats wrong here??????????????

    Reply#3 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 3:40 PM EST
    windycitybluez

    I see you start by posting "what will we do for us" you must have meant what will he do for us, Why should we want him to do for us? No one can do for you, better than you can do for yourself. Under the Bush administration Hundreds of thousands of jobs if not millions of jobs were lost therefore the Bush administration did nothing for us, every thing  went to the very rich, while we the people lost our jobs, homes, and savings,

    Then you vote for McCain, even though you didn't like, trust, or "CARE" for Sara Palin. Why would you vote for a ticket you didn't agree with 100% Voting isn't some game, You would have placed some one you do not care for one step away from the most important job in the world, putting at risk not only the future of every American but that of every human on earth.

     You fear Obama will take away many rights we do have? where have you been? have you heard about the patriot act? Please read the patriot act, and google Attack on the constitution by the Bush Administration. Thank God King George the IV will soon fade in to history {as the worst President ever}.

    Obama turn his back on the flag? what we do know {facts} Sara Palin and her husband were {are} members of the Alaska Independence Party {AIP} here watch this video the Palin family wants Alaska to be a country not a state. yet you voted for her? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4onL8NhC20E

    We elected a Hawaiian American as our president and a great vice president who can {God forbid} take over the president's job if ever needed, seems like you take gossip as truth but do very little to no home work for facts. Please do some research our vote should only be given if we are 100% informed and comfortable with our choices. Have a good day. 4 years go by fast in 2012 ask yourself if you are better off than you are now Obama/Biden will open some doors for us, so that we can do for ourselves. I would advise you to go back to school as I will be doing not that you haven't been to school or that you are well educated I'm just saying alternative energy is the future thus good $$$$ jobs will be created.

    • 1 vote
    #3.1 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 7:08 AM EST
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    own theory

    Also, some may not agree with me but that is your right to.

    I look forward to hearing your remarks.

      Reply#4 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 3:40 PM EST
      PowerIsKnowledge

      own theroy, who are you addressing?

        Reply#5 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 3:49 PM EST
        own theory

        I'm addressing the ones who posted comments on this page.

        Sorry should have made that more clear.

          #5.1 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 3:52 PM EST
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          Faith McGary-699516

          Power, I appreciate your post, you are well written, and well spoken.  You put no one down that is trying to be heard.  I may have posted in may spots today, and as stated earlier, but you refuse to listen Angel, I am sorry if it offended you.  Native people are for the most part, never heard, we keep quiet as our land is taken, our people oppressed.  But, I am not angry, I have just had enough.  I do not, and have not, ever asked anyone to take care of me, or make my way.  I am educated, and a well known inventor for Mobile Technology... check the patent office yourself, I have made my own way. 

          The Gov will need to give back what has been stolen from the Native people over the years.  They need to make good on all of the treaty agreements that have been signed, and then not followed.  Power, if  Mr. Obama can take these first steps, plus do what he said he would do on the reservations (he promised to put Native People in his Administration) we have something to work with.  Where the issue comes in, is as follows;  Mr. Obama has announced his transition team, and right out of the gate, not one Native American.  His words become empty to me, and to Native People, however, we are used to these types of broken promises. I am willing to wait the 90 days to see what he does, but I have little hope that his words will be filled with truth and life.

          Our people are never taken serious during elections, we look different, we dress different, and for most Americans (not all) we are Savages, or not Educated, or our Native people who speak in stories to people, these same people do not want to take the time to listen,  or learn the lesson in the story, so they will not vote for our people.  We are told to be like the rest of Americans if we want to win an election, and that is not right.  We were here first, how about you be like us, or allow is to be among the Elite without changing our appearence.   For years now, we have stayed where you put us, we have followed your rules, yet the Gov has broken the rules the signed, we have stayed quiet, we have been kind to visitors who roam our reservations, we have tried to educate, but make no headway.  We have not given up, and our story tellers, and elders continue to reach out, with a strong hope than many will listen.

          SO, thank you to all that have taken the time to listen.  If it causes you to think of other cultures, and the Native people, it was worth it.  Many do not know that the Gov has broken so many of the treaty documents that were signed. 

          Again, for those that were offended that I would dare post in more than one location, for that I am sorry.  Freedom is never free, that I see.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 4:06 PM EST
          PowerIsKnowledge

          Faith you're right when you say

          Native people are for the most part, never heard

          That's because of the poor perception and misconception that people have. I constantly correct people when they say things that just aren't true. I encourage them to visit the Indian Museum in D.C. because it is fantastic! You're probably not familiar with the Unitarian/Universalist but their social justice program works very hard for the rights of everyone. I suggest you go to their web site and see what they do. They'll listen to you and will be willing to work with you to change perceptions. I must warn you that the Unitarians are pro-choice, pro-same sex marriages, etc., because they believe people have the right to make their own choices. If any of this bothers you then you just might want to ignore this comment. http://www.uua.org/socialjustice/37180.shtml

           we keep quiet as our land is taken

          You didn't keep quiet! You were and are outgunned! But today you're not--you choose to keep quiet because you choose not to conform.

          our people oppressed. 

          Our people will continue to be oppressed until we enter the mainstream. Our people can only win from being in the system. Gaining respect and winning friends. This can be done with an open heart and the willingness to forgive the past but never forgetting it.

          The Gov does need to give back what has been stolen from the Native people over the years. 

          This will never happen so don't sit around moaning and groaning while waiting for it.

          They need to make good on all of the treaty agreements that have been signed, and then not followed. 

          That can happen and will happen when more Natives take advantage of education and the American way because it's the only way.

          Power, if  Mr. Obama can take these first steps, plus do what he said he would do on the reservations (he promised to put Native People in his Administration) we have something to work with. 

          It ain't over until the fat lady sings. Natives many not be in the positions you want to see them in but I believe if President elect Obama says he's going to put Natives in his administration, he will. And, show him some respect. He is President elect Obama.

          We were here first, how about you be like us.

          Forget about being here first and forget about people being like you because none of it means anything nor will it change anything. These are rantings of a child. When think like this that means you're doing nothing and as long as you do nothing, you won't see change.

          We are told to be like the rest of Americans, and that is not right. 

          Either you grow into the 21st century or you remain behind. That's life! But does that mean you have to give up your customs? No. You grow with the times and retain your customs. Other cultures do. So why not Natives.

          For years now, we have stayed where you put us, we have followed your rules,

          You were put there but you made the decision to stay there. You chose a behavior not to divert from.

          yet the Gov has broken the rules the signed,

          The government breaks rules all the time so you find a way to circumvent those rules.

          we have stayed quiet,

          Sounds like stubbornness and laziness and the unwilliness to fight for what you believe is yours.

          we have been kind to visitors who roam our reservations,

          Kindness is good. It places you above those who are not.

          we have tried to educate, but make no headway. 

          Then try harder.

          We have not given up, and our story tellers and elders continue to reach out in hopes than many will listen.

          Story telling is good but will not help you progress. Tell the storys but get out and do something to make conditions better. People will listen when you speak in intelligence and conviction.

          Many do not know that the Gov has broken so many of the treaty documents that were signed. 

          And those many more people don't care. You're not the only culture that's been oppressed so get over it.

          Freedom is never free, that I see.

          You're right! Freedom is never free. Anyone who wants freedom has to fight for it!

          • 2 votes
          Reply#7 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 5:46 PM EST
          Faith McGary-699516

          Truly you do not understand Native American's.  You use terms like "Outgunned"  ... Yes, we have been Gunned Down, Killed, and how about the "Trail of Tears"  TO use terms like these seems interesting to me.

          When you say just get over it, and get with your program, shows me that you want a one party system, you party or no party.   That is wrong, everyone, including the Native Americans voice must be heard and respected.  When wrong has been done to a people for years, it must be made right.  THe voice of culture, wrongs, rights, laws, people must all be respected.  Mr. Obama talks about how the Black Voice has taken power, that is great, but there are other voices.....small, large, all colors that must be respected for who they  are, and not forced to be what you are, and what Mr. Obama is.   I know you will use verbal bullets to match your gun that you carry, but that is ok, you have the right to do so, and that is what makes American great today, I hope these rights for all are not taken away, but rather enlarged.

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:24 AM EST
          PowerIsKnowledge

          If you were to read my comments with objectivity and hear President elect Obama with objectivity, you'll understand our words. Your way haven't worked and won't work. If you want to be heard you have to be in the system. Yes, I advocate one system and that's a multi-cultural system. In that system everyone can be heard. What I hear you advocating is Native power and that will never happen because the system won't let it. Let's look at what some Nations have, Casinos. Now how does that give you a voice? If you believe it does, what kind of voice do you have? Very few people will listen to people who aren't career people. No one feels sorry for people who haven't pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and it doesn't matter that you were here first. It's the American Way. Natives give away their rights when they continue to cry in their own milk. What has that gotten you? Where has that gotten. Where can you go with this?

          You can't fight the system. You can't win if you're not in the system. If you want a voice then fight for it because you'll never get it with your mindset.

          • 1 vote
          #7.2 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 10:19 AM EST
          GeorgeKA

          While I am symapthetic to the plight of the native Americans in recognition of the injustice that has been done to them, Trail of Tears was a good example, infected small pox blankets another. There are even more cultures accross the world that were entirely wiped out along with many of the tribes of the native Americans. It is not fair but it is a sin of a civilization that is undeveloped. By undeveloped, I mean the early American settlers. The europeans could not comprehend the religon and traditions of the native Americans. 

          Now, with that being understood, I find it necessary to point out that the real difference between native Americans and serveral other lost civilizations like dozens in South America is that the democracy that was formed made it unlawful to exterminate the remaining "savages" (Please, this is not my word it is a shameful fact of history). I don't believe there is nearly as much prejudice against Native Americans as there is against African Americans. This victory for racial equality could not have been acheived even 10 years ago.

          If Obama ran a campaign on reparations instead of the issues that we all face as a nation, he would not have made it through the primary. If Obama can attain the highest office in the land with his vision and intellect, surely you wouldn't try to tell me a Native American of equal intellect and vision could also achieve this goal.

          There are hundreds of programs already in place specifically designated for Native Americans. However, as reservations are their own Nations independant from the laws the govern the rest of the U.S., yes, you must chose one world or the other.

          I know these reservations were designed to imprison the Native American but they have evolved to a separate Nations subsidized by federal dollars and protected by US Laws while you are free to create and enforce your own laws within.

          As surely as there will not be reparations for slavery, Manhattan Island will not be sold back for $23 either. If we have a couple more weeks in the stock market like we've had, that may be all it is worth.

          • 3 votes
          #7.3 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:13 PM EST
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          own theory

          Our people are never taken serious during elections, we look different, we dress different, and for most Americans (not all) we are Savages, or not Educated, or our Native people who speak in stories to people, these same people do not want to take the time to listen,  or learn the lesson in the story, so they will not vote for our people.

          Faith,

          I'm not Native American but I know what you mean. Hear me out.

          On election night I heard from a news station (cannot remember which one) that that only people who are voting for McCain in the South are uneducated white trash who know nothing about politics. Or something to that nature.

          Well I"m hear to say that that is a false. Not all people from the South are like that. We are educated and we know what we want and don't want in politics.

          I'm proud to be a Southern Redneck.

          So you see, you are not the only ones who are not listen too.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#8 - Thu Nov 6, 2008 6:19 PM EST
          AfricanMadman

          a open government.....

          A open area of ideas.....

          I'm sorry for cursing, but it about (censoring) TIME!!!!!

          And look at the result, we've made history people!!!!!!!

          And opened the presidential door for others who are of not of Caucasian skin, but are full of ideas for a better America....

          We won, we finally WON!

          • 3 votes
          Reply#9 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 6:22 AM EST
          AfricanMadman

          And i love that picture above.....

          A true REAL 1st family.....

          • 3 votes
          Reply#10 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 6:24 AM EST
          GrayHouse

          If you haven't seen palinaspresident.com since the election, it's worth the trip.

          Yes We Can! And now if I can only find a place to download that song!

            Reply#11 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 10:40 AM EST
            Peace*TalkDeleted
            Peace*Talk

            Power you invite me to a conversation and then delete my comments? I said nothing to violate the COH, and was totally on topic.

            I see you a fairness act supporter too?

              Reply#13 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 12:57 PM EST
              PowerIsKnowledge

              I deleted your comment because you were off topic.

                Reply#14 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 1:17 PM EST
                Peace*TalkDeleted
                Dominic Dunherst

                Dear Faith,

                I’m jumping aboard this fast moving train and hope I can catch up on the conversation. If you are Iroquois, Saygo!. If not you’ll have to teach me how you say hello in your nation’s tongue. The Native Americans living on the rez are in an awkward situation and that is probably the main source of their suffering. In my humble opinion, this is where lawyers and politicians of all nations should focus their attention. What almost all non Native Americans don’t know and that you should be telling them is that your people weren’t even considered Americans by law before the early 19 hundreds. Natives (for short) weren’t given the right to vote before 1921 I believe and not in all states of the union. It’s relevant information like this that you should be spreading to allow others to be outraged as I am that such injustices have been perpetrated in a so-called Free Country.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#16 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 8:13 PM EST
                Dominic Dunherst

                Dear Faith,

                If the Gov. has been and will continue trying to steal land from the reservations, it’s because of their very position with respect to the rest of the US. Technically, by law, the rez is a country within the country. If the Elders of the different nations have not yet understood that, they have been delaying the inevitable. What most whites don’t know is that the Gov. slowly but surely preparing a general take over of as many reservations as they can. All natives are registered and some even tattooed numbers on their arms (Hello Auschwitz) and their children even living on the rez can be dislodged as Non-natives if they don’t have at least 50% native blood. In other words, sooner or later when all of the natives living on a rez will have between 25 and 50% native blood, they can be legally kicked out of the rez and if no other native can claim to be of the Tribe or Nation, the rez can become US property. This is the kind of info your need to be aware of and to make heard, not complaints of stolen land. This means that instead of a return to ancient story ways, your Elders need to get their heads out of the sand and do something radical on a legal basis

                The rez being an island closed on itself, even if it is in an ocean of other cultures and even if there are no fences around it, nobody wants to touch it with a ten foot pole and especially companies that might help it become a prosperous nation. The Gov. would frown on a native nation becoming too powerful. In other countries of the world, nations have evolved into other nations. Governments have changed. Europe for example went a from feudal-vassal structure in the 15th and 16th centuries to Monarchies and finally to democracies. Should we regret those old days? We need to live with our times and our technology. Crying on spilt milk never solved anything.

                Your Nation needs to decide if it is going to make the leap from the 17th century to the 21st. Trying to hold on to a system that does not have its place  in a fast moving and ruthless civilization of “every man for himself” is like trying to bring back the old kings and queens of Europe. The Seminoles of Florida for example never signed a treaty with the US Gov. even after having been beat: they are still legally the enemy of the US. Ironic isn’t it. It’s hard to live in live in a country within a country.

                The whole issue of a rez is what is putting natives in a lose-lose situation.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#17 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:05 PM EST
                GeorgeKA

                As far as appointments go, I believe Obama will appoint the best minds he can find for the work he needs to do. Within the next 2 weeks, we will know every person he has picked.

                This entire election has renewed my enthusiasm for government even more than when Ross Perot ran. Regardless of anything else, this election was all about solving the issues we have and will solve.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#18 - Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:21 PM EST
                Mrs Brady

                I Think Obama will be a great president and I Love the new web site they set up taking idea's from anyone .Also he has all of his and Bidens plans on the site and setting up all kinds of ways for people to help .

                  Reply#19 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 3:04 AM EST
                  PowerIsKnowledge

                  www.change.gov

                    Reply#20 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 4:14 AM EST
                    Faith McGary-699516

                    You have clearly painted the picture.  Further, you are right, this is the style of information that should be blogged.  Your information has helped our people in a way that I was not able.  I am an software engineer, and the gift of the written, and spoken word, not my strong points.  As a chief inventor for a major company, I spend most of my time, heads down, working on new concepts, and new patents for all of your mobile devices that you carry.  I would like to set up a Native American Information site, or an author, such as the one in this room, should open a page for Native American's to tell the story, or, for people such as yourself to help us tell the true story through blogging.   The Native Nations are in need help, we do need to hold the Gov accountable for each treaty signed.  We continue to sign them, even in the past 5 years, and as quickly as they are signed, the Gov breaks the treaty.  And, yes... we do have real fears of the Gov.  I have had high hopes for Mr. Obama, but with no Native American in the Transition team, my hopes became like all of the past hopes, and dreams I had with each treaty signed, all like a hollow empty drumb.  I am willing to give him a chance over the next few weeks as he pulls the rest of the White House Staff together.  But, he can not just meet with the Nations one time per year, then believe it will solve the differences of some many years, on both sides, we need to roll up our sleeves and get down to working.  You are also right about the % of Native Blood, if our numbers reduce to a set point, the Gov can take our land again, and we need to change that. 

                    I want to personally thank you for your well thought out blog on this subject, for your concern for the truth, and your time given to this subject and the Native American Nations.  Feel free to contact me either at my office:  faith.mcgary@kgb.com  or faithmcgary@yahoo.com

                    Peace

                    Faith McGary

                    Ani-Yun

                      Reply#21 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 7:55 AM EST
                      Faith McGary-699516

                      Power:

                      Thank you for taking time out of your day to notify me of the wonderful blog by Dominic Dunherst.

                        Reply#22 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 8:03 AM EST
                        PowerIsKnowledge

                        Faith, I don't know if this will help but contact the Indian Museum in D.C. There must be some sort of coalition because they were able to build that beautiful building that holds a great of amount of Indian history from many tribes.

                        http://www.nmai.si.edu/subpage.cfm?subpage=dc&second=visitor&third=hours

                          Reply#23 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 10:31 AM EST
                          Danny McGee

                          Wow. This may be a little off-topic, but I'm sort of ashamed that there's a museum in the middle of our nation's capitol that still refers to Native Americans as "Indians."

                            #23.1 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 1:54 PM EST
                            Dominic Dunherst

                            Actually, Indian is not a pejorative name. As you may know it comes from the fact that Columbus thought he had found India (by sailing around the world) which was his excuse to the queen of Spain to sail west to get the rich spices and silks that took months to get by pack train east. It's not as bad a name as Red-Skin of even Savage. Native Amerrican is a very modern arrangement.

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                            #23.2 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 4:41 PM EST
                            Dominic Dunherst

                            Scott Mamaday is the director of the museum and he is also a Native American himself. there have been several Native Elders that have attended the UN meetings as representatives of their Nations.

                              #23.3 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 4:43 PM EST
                              Danny McGee

                              Actually, Indian is not a pejorative name. As you may know it comes from the fact that Columbus thought he had found India (by sailing around the world) which was his excuse to the queen of Spain to sail west to get the rich spices and silks that took months to get by pack train east. It's not as bad a name as Red-Skin of even Savage. Native Amerrican is a very modern arrangement.

                              I'm not saying it's derogatory, just...incorrect.

                                #23.4 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 7:45 PM EST
                                GeorgeKA

                                As a nation, I think we have become too concerned with heritage. The only exception to this rule is the American Indian or if preferred Native-American.

                                For everything else, I believe all the hyphens need to go away. Blank-Americans need to be Americans first last and always. We are a land of immigrants. We all have ancestors in different parts of the world. By hyphenating american with these foriegn lands you diminish your allegiance to the nation your ancestors choose to form. With the exception of the people brought against their will.

                                As Teddy Roosevelt said, " Any one who calls themselves and American and also something else is not an American at all and should return to the country they also claim allegiance to."

                                That being said, be aware he was referring to my ancestors the Irish-Americans and the German-Americans. African-Americans were not considered citizens at this point. The hypenated American idea is not new, just accepted without thought. If thought were put into it, it would be rejected.

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                                #23.5 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 12:11 PM EST
                                PowerIsKnowledge

                                I agree GeorgeKA. When we can call ourselves Americans without the hyphen, a lot of unacceptable things will go away.

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                                #23.6 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 1:36 PM EST
                                Rainkiss

                                When we can call ourselves Americans without the hyphen, a lot of unacceptable things will go away.

                                Amen.

                                  #23.7 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:33 PM EST
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                                  PowerIsKnowledge

                                  I've been fortunate in meeting and talking to a lot of Indians and I always asked what is correct Indian or Native American and never once was I told Native American. Individuals are now embracing their Indian bloodline and that makes me proud.

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                                  Reply#24 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 6:58 PM EST
                                  Danny McGee

                                  Individuals are now embracing their Indian bloodline and that makes me proud.

                                  Forgive my ignorance...are you saying they migrated to North America from India? Because that seems incredibly unlikely.

                                    #24.1 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 7:47 PM EST
                                    PowerIsKnowledge

                                    No. I'm speaking of American Indians. Through time individuals lost touch with their heritage and only embraced the culture their parents and their parents before them chose to embrace. Individuals are now researching their family trees and finding bloodlines they had no idea existed such as their American Indian bloodline.

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                                    #24.2 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 8:35 PM EST
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                                    GrayHouse

                                    "having been nothing more than a civil rights lawyer, teacher and community organizer"

                                    I didn't see the deleted comment either. Regarding the comment above though, you say "nothing more"? As if being any of those deserves no credit, especially for a person that could've gone to make big bucks working at almost any prestigious law firm after graduating Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School? Wow!

                                    For the record he was also an Illinois State Senator and United States Senator.

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                                    Reply#27 - Sat Nov 8, 2008 9:28 PM EST
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                                    forrestg

                                    Hey dixiedi, truce.  You were making predictions of his failure and saying you support him.  It seemed confusing.  I hope that you are sincere when you talk of supporting President Elect Obama.  If you are, please stop making predictions of his failure and give him a chance.  He is taking control of a nation that is in BIG TROUBLE. 

                                    I don't expect him to be able to do it by himself.  I am sure he will surround himself with the best people he can find and get about the business of changing the direction of our country.  Our country has been driven into a ditch.  It will take time, sacrifice, hard work, patience, and support for Obama or anyone else to get us back on track.  If you support him, do that but don't claim to support him in one breath and guarantee his failure in the next. 

                                    At this point he is going to be the leader of our nation no matter what we would like.  He is deserving of the support of all citizens of the Unites States.  Just as John McCain would have been if he had won.  You have got to understand something.  WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER WHETHER WE WANT TO BE OR NOT.  IF HE FAILS OUR NATION FAILS. 

                                    It is my opinion that the people will give up on him before he ever gives up on them.  There are those who no matter what he does they will call it failure.  He said that he would need us, that means you too.  You can either be a part of the solution or be a part of the problem.  You decide, and remember YES WE CAN!  

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                                    Reply#28 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 12:06 AM EST
                                    PowerIsKnowledge

                                    Please do not bring your negative Obama fight here because comments will be deleted. We are not bashing Obama or anyone else.

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                                    Reply#29 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 3:30 AM EST
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